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Swine Vaccine - FluMist - Virus Shedding!

There will be a certain Swine FLU vaccine this year that is different from the rest in the mix. FluMist, made by the company MedImmune, is going to be given to thousands of people this FLU season, possibly hundreds of thousands or more. What is the problem? There is one point that is not being stressed to the public. First of all, FluMist is made with live viruses. It is sprayed into the nasal cavity and not injected into the body like other vaccines. The major problem is that the live virus stays in the nasal cavity and is shed out through sneezing, breathing, ect. This means that you will be able to spread the H1N1 virus around to people that you encounter. While doing some research I found some info about the 2003 FluMist product. Here is a direct copy from a package insert for FluMist from 2003.

“FluMist® recipients should avoid close contact with immunocompromised individuals for at least 21 days.”

I found no such claim in the newer 2009 package insert that I have for FluMist. What I did find was 2 conflicting pieces of info… Here are two statements from the same package insert that I have from this year in 2009. Again, these are both from the SAME documentation.

Transmission Study
FluMist contains live attenuated influenza viruses that must infect and replicate in cells lining the nasopharynx of the recipient to induce immunity. Vaccine viruses capable of infection and replication can be cultured from nasal secretions obtained from vaccine recipients. The relationship of viral replication in a vaccine recipient and transmission of vaccine viruses to other individuals has not been established.
Vaccination with a Live Virus Vaccine
Vaccine recipients or their parents/guardians should be informed by the health care provider that Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine Live, Intranasal is an attenuated live virus vaccine and has the potential for transmission to immunocompromised household contacts.

Isn’t it odd how there are 2 statements that contradict themselves right in the same piece of literature? Back in 2003 MedImmune admitted that this vaccine caused virus shedding by putting a warning in the package insert stating “stay away from people with compromised immune systems for 21 days after you get this” yet in 2009 it states that there have been no studies regarding transmission of the virus from the vaccine yet there is a potential for transmission? How do they know that there is a potential if they haven’t studied it? Is there something I am missing in all of this?

When you are sick from a virus you shed live virus material, everyone does it. This is how people get sick from other people without much effort. If it was not this way then there would be no mass “pandemic” going on right now, although there isn’t really one anyways. This vaccination method is no different than getting sick in terms of sheding, because they are spraying live virus into your nasal cavity where it is going to stay while your body fights it. You are going to sneeze and cough into your hands or the air, and the virus will spread. A report from the Minnesota Department of Health in September of 2009 states the following:

In a study designed to maximize the chance of detecting vaccine virus transmission, conducted in a Finnish daycare, one child shed the virus for 21 days. Other children in this study shed the virus a mean of 7.6 days. Transmission rates were extremely low (0.6%-2.4%). There was actually only one documented case of LAIV transmission. An additional small study of 40 adults conducted since licensure found that only 50% of the adults were shedding the virus from the influenza vaccine on day three after vaccination; one adult shed the virus on day seven as well. That means that half the adults had stopped shedding the virus by day three. Some of these post licensure studies have prompted ACIP to reduce the days a HCW should avoid contact with patients requiring protective isolation – from three weeks to seven days.

So we can see that there are studies proving shedding can happen for up to 21 days, as the package insert also suggested back in 2003. We also see that ONLY 50% of the adults in the study were shedding after 3 days. That is comforting, and I am glad it is ONLY 1/2 of the group! Their choice of words on this is ironic, they act like it isn’t that big of a deal that half of the people are shedding a virus. How many adults were shedding on days 1 and 2 I wonder? Was it more than half of the test subjects? If people shed the live virus, aren’t people that do not have the Swine FLU come down with it? Isn’t that of at least some concern?

There is NO pandemic at this time in the real world, unless you are completely caught up in the media world. We went from virus to vaccine in 5 months, which is completely unheard of. They are not thoroughly testing these vaccines, if they are even being tested at all, because they are being pushed to hard by the government. Doesn’t it seem that these vaccines could potentially create a real pandemic without us realizing it? It could at least spread the H1N1 virus through the population and allow it to infect many people. Whether or not it will actually make many people sick is something we will have to wait and see about. I don’t want the H1N1 virus if I can help it…natural or vaccine, why would anyone want any virus infection? I would make sure you are not touching your face, shaking hands, standing right next to people, ect. Wash your hands before eating or going to the bathroom, sanitize your surfaces if other people are touching things that you are, do not drink from someone else’s glass, ect.

The vaccine virus is different from the real virus because it has been attenuated. Attenuated means it has been weakened. If you do happen to get this form of the virus it should not carry the same symptoms as the real virus. It has been altered so that it should only stay in the nose and not cause any major problems. It was altered to live in cooler temps (the nose) while higher temperatures kill the virus (the lungs).

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